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Zeke Banister
Nice job of whispering through the video...
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Zain
Terrible explanation! Just reading off a script with no regard to the listening and registering capability of the viewers.
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liyexiang66
Hi, like this vdeo, and got another more confusing math question: how did you calculate odds 4 the next street usually? like, u getting enough odds to call on the turn, but u feel you going to pay them off their value bets, and at the same time call all their bluff, and if some flush or streat card fall, u decide to fold.
How to calculate whether I should call to see the river or not on turn 4 such situation?


i ask this cuz sometimes i call the turn pretty easy consider the math, and all of a sudden, villain bet big the river and the river odds become unfavor so i fold which made my turn call -ev, even though it is +ev at that time on the turn, but i know u cannot have ev when u call turn and fold river always.


I believe most low stake player have experienced similar situation before, hope u could make a video about such situation

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Peter Mortensen
Great video best poker video i've seen so far!
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Nightblue
I got it! Just take do the formula ......add risk + reward first....then divide that by risk....as follows.....add 33 + 53.50 = 86.50....then divide it by 33....that equals 38% pot odds
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Nightblue
I really had no idea about how he got a percentage or a ration out of that. I used the calculator and did 33/33 +53.50 and got back 54.5 percent? I give up I've been doing it for two days, I'll stick to theory, but I'm more confused now with that 1.6 to 1 haha. Thanks for the videos though their pretty good. Anybody know any other videos where they explain how to get their equity like 1.6.1? Google isn't doing a good job?
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Wansoo Lee
Ok but how do u know your equity? U dont even know what hand your opponent is playing though so do u just "assume" your opponent's range and get approximate equity?
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Wansoo Lee
Ok but how do u know your equity? U dont even know what hand your opponent is playing though so do u just "assume" your opponent's range and get approximate equity?
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Adam D.
you're too quick. sorry... not good.
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Yao Hong Kok
If you are lazy to calculate pot odds and EVs, you can use this simple-to-use app to analyze your Texas Hold'Em game:

edge.poker/

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Tygelin86
I don't fully understand this concept because intuitively it seems that i risk more then the amount i need to call because im already invested in the pot. Some percentage of the pot is my money so the reward is smaller then the pot + current bet. So the reward should be smaller in the equation but i don't know im confused because in this case i'm not risking the money already invested in the pot when calling but im going to lose my money already invested in he pot if i'm not calling or reraising.
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Marco dorkus malorkus
Stop giving away free info! Don't you understand what depreciative value is. Ugh.
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Jacob Cornell
Let’s SKIP the parts where you assume we’ve all got calculators at the tables bro
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Mark Woldin
Thank you. Very good. But why are you speaking so quickly? I can't absorb it.
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Cristian Carvajal
Better use your feelings about hands and how people reacts
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Boss with the hot sauce
Yea what he said... Sheesh
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Todd Zickel
You make it confusing!!! At 2:10, you show $33/($33+53.5) or $33/$86.5 and show 1.6:1. Confusing!!! It's $33 call in a $53.5 pot or $53.5/$33 is 1.6:1. Why teach newbies incorrect and simple algebra?
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Jamie Baier
Do players ever consider their previous failed attempts/plays when factoring a decision. There are probabilities during play but if you haven't hit a 25% call in say 6 of 10 current attempts? Or if your pocket pairs have hit trips 3 consecutive times you're bound to go on a not hitting skid? Just curious.
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Negative Gains
dude that bitcoin advertisement on there D:
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Richard Guttfield
I don't think you are explaining it well, for example surely 3:1 is 33% not 25%? I am sure you know what you are talking about and are correct but it would be good if you could explain in a manner that even beginners could understand
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R
This channel is amazing. Thank you for not charging us for the info.
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Daniel Moctezuma
I have a question. Say you have 15 outs. A flush draw and two overcards. When I insert this in a calculator, it gives me a 50 % equity in an equity calculator. but it gives me 30 percent equity once I miss hitting my card on the turn. How is this possible?
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Preetty Goood
what in the world
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LilMOMMAson
in your AK example that starts @1:31, please explain how the fuck you arrive at an answer of 1.6:1! Maybe I'm the only one, but when I calculate 33/[33+53.5] my answer is .3815028902.
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Tinashe Matambanadzo
Thank you! Didn't understand a single thing but I'll keep watching more and I'll understand better. So thank you for your channel
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Sellim Mujkic
How did you come from 1,6:1 to 1/2.6 =38%...(2:13) Can SOMEBODY explain that.
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Jonathon Gittus
Great video!
But isn't this math just assuming that there's no chance of eliciting further bets on the river? If we make our straight (using say a 10 of hearts so there's no flush possible for our opponent), we can likely get some more money into the pot. So shouldn't consider calling the turn even with slightly negative EV?
(In this example it's a clear fold even still, but you get my point)

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Backtothefuture
what about implicited pot odds, that will convert EV- moves into EV+ isn't it?
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knsin0
Too fast! Much better at 0.75, thanks anyway!
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Alejandro De Miranda
My head hurts!
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Daren Darnell
So am i supposed to memorize equity vs different ranges or have equilab open all the time?
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stuzaza
Love your work mate, great presentation and very valuable insights. I would like to play you heads up one day
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Hexspa
Also keep in mind negative implied odds wherein you might have TPTK but no flush draws. You can bet but you're more likely to lose by the river and more likely to get called by someone chasing the draw, so less fold equity.
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Hexspa
In that second hand, you might have less equity than 16% if he's got a flush draw. Then you'd have 12%. Either way, drawing against small stacks is dumb.
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Gregory Peck
Very confusing. Makes me crazy[ 2018]
3:1 can also be translated into 4:1.
3 is the reward and 1 is the risk\ while 4 is the loss and 1 is the win. How can we make that agree? Anyone?

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Shannon Provost
The opponent could be a she or he
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Alexander Lysberg
I'm confused. Why do some people say "always call when pot odds are higher than your chance of winning" and some say you should only call when your chance of winning is higher than the pot odds?
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Ko Ko
So when one jam 40$ into 80 $ pot that is 120$ also a pot too ?
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karrde666666
the 98s hand if using EV and his range includes small pairs,aces suited, broadway cards, on the button bringing the equity to 24% that would mean the call is correct?
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Tyler Griffin
Thank you a thousand times over.
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readu100
You have to take other factors into consideration right? Like say you have a high suspicion your opponent's hand is better than yours.
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Garrett Hillliard
When you are calculating odds preflop and your up against one person in this hand. But there is 6 people seated at the table do you go by the 6 player equity or the 2 player equity for that hand?
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Danny Milea
I thought Equity meant if you already have X percentage contributed to the pot, then make the call. So on the 4:40 mark, if you've contributed at least 33% to the pot on the 2:1 odds, then make the call.
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arxiao lim
What if my opponent make a bluff and over betting?
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Ryan Critchlow
If another player knows you're using pot odds, couldn't they just bluff and raise a large amount, knowing you'll fold?
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maroceracer
♡♡♡
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Kieu Mi Phan
2p06 so complex, call 33$ for 86$ total, need 33/86 equity ~ 38%
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#SomeDieNameless
I get most of this but I'm confused on where you got the 2.6 from ?? Can you help with that part ?? Just not sure why that specific number?
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Saint Peterson
I don't want you to be my math teacher.
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JustTroll
here u go some extra poker tell that no one would tell you its for online and real life poker, actualy if he folds it usualy means he has weak hand
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Dreamagain11
This is a stupid question I'm sure but why isn't your call calculated in to pot odds. If the pot is $80 and someone bets $20 the pot is now $100 but if you call you get your money back so aren't you risking $20 to effectively win $120?
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Keith J
So when I say I have to call 20 to win 60 I'm not getting 3-1 but instead getting 4-1?
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Aces
damn i wish i can do this on the fly in my head while playing live with people. you need good memory for that i guess ..
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Basse
What I do not understand is why you would say that the reward is 120 and the risk is 40, and then when you are calculating the % the reward is 160 all of a sudden (the pot + your bet). Shouldn't it be consistent? It makes more sense if 4:1 = 25 % and 3:1 = 33%.
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name's ash, housewares
sorry, but that's much much much too fast. i needed like 3 other videos to understand what was going on here. it's a nicely made video but certainly not a good one for learning about pot odds and equity. and learning about this stuff was the goal here i assume
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Fabrício Miranda
SLOWERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Triplemania
If the conversion from risk/reward ratio to percentages is confusing to you, you can skip it. I've never used the ratio, always go right to the percentages.

Add the call you need to make to the pot, calculate/guesstimate the percentage your call is, and compare to card %% by using the rule of 2/4. So the example pot odds from the video,

My call would be: 24. Current pot: 65.50. Total would be: +- 90. (No need to be exact)
24 out of 90 is slightly more than 25%. (since 25 out of 100 would be exactly 25%. Guesstimating will work fine)

Open ender, all-in on turn:
rule of 2/4, 8 outs, so: 8*2+1 = 17%
That's clearly less than our "slightly more than 25%". So it's a clear fold.

Same call/pot situation with a flush draw on the turn?
rule of 2/4, 9 outs, 9*2+1 = 19%.
Still fold.

Gutshot + flush combo on the turn?
9 + 4 - 1 = 12 outs (one of the gutshot outs is also a flush out)
12*2+1 = 25%
Still fold.

Open ended + flush combo on the turn?
9 + 8 - 2 = 15 outs
15*2+1 = 31%
Call. It's +EV. But don't be surprised when you lose.

Open ended, but all-in on the flop?
8*4+1 = 33%
Call. It's +EV. But don't be surprised when you lose.

Open ended + flush combo, but all-in on the flop?
15*4+1 = 61%
Call. It's +EV. You even have a good chance of winning the pot ;p

As you can see, it'll hardly ever come down to the exact number like 26.8%. Doing a rough guesstimate like this will work fine in the vast majority of times. If it's not as clear, I usually fold. I don't play to break even with a high chance of losing part of my current stack.

Btw James, I mean to give an alternative to people who have a hard time converting ratio to percentage, not to criticize your video. I love your videos, they're great!

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MaxPower
Just fyi, at 3:18 in the bottom left corner, you show the odds (2.7:1) but right above it the formula actually calculates the percentage ($24/[$24+$65.50]). I think that is what might cause some confusion for people.
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Sebastian Rose
Love the video and I learned some new.But to calculate the pot odds much simpler, I simply divide the whole reward with the risk.
If the full pot is 1500 and you are asked to call 500 it's simply 1500/500 = 3Which gives you the pot odds of 3:1
A quick way of understanding the ratio is simply by switching the two numbers around, so that the "1" is always to the left and keeps unchanged and you just add 1 to the right side.3:1 = 1/4 = 25%2:1 = 1/3 = 33%1:1 = 1/2 = 50%

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dmed
Why is it every time I watch a "pot odds" video it always tells you the math on when to call or fold, but never to raise? Isn't there math and pot odds with raising too?
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Marcus Owen
Why, when calculating outs, is no allowance ever made for the likelihood of some outs already being in other players hands? Since in a full-ring game nearly half the deck is already 'out' it must be a reasonable assumption that on average almost half of all your outs will be also?
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Tigerburningbright
Help me someone. The first example is 1.6:1 pot odds. I get that.....but then u convert that to 1:2.6 which is 38% I get that as well. But y in the second example 2.7:1 not 1:3.7 like the first example which would mean 38% equity not 27%?
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Raman D
Hey man love your videos. It makes sense when you do it but when i try to apply these concepts elsewhere they get me reall confused one example would just be for and equity calculation

board: 4sKs3h
hero: As5s
villan: Kc3
so in this case we get 12 outs to win
but here its different bc if we take 47/12 we get roughly 25%
however and odds calculator give a win % of 44.6. meaning the closest thing to this would be using the rule of 4 and 2 but even with that its a huge 3% diffrence.
So idk how to di it even while using your examples

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The Artist
How do you factor the rake? can you do a video on pot odds involving rake?
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BrownButBritish
So why on the 3:1 pot odds did you have +25% equity on the call for plus EV and on the 2.7:1 you needed 27% to be plus EV? Shouldn't the 2:7:1 be around 22% if your using the same logic? Sorry trying to get my head around it.
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Lucas Duncan
Great video, mate. concise and made things simple. cheers
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NUKE
Another trash video that doesnt show the math behind the numbers... Fuck off
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MICHAEL STEPHENS
How did you get calculate Risk:$33 and Pot:$53.50 to 1.6:1 odds? Can you explain that part please.
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ndnow12
@ around 3:18 the pot is 65.5 and you need 24 to call and come out with 2.73 : 1 on a call. Shouldn't you be adding your call to the pot to get 3.73:1 on a call? The answer is still fold however it is much much closer.
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mathIsART
It took me SO long to understand pot odds... Darn, math is hard.
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KNG
So to make a correct call, my equity/chance of winning has to be equal to or higher than the pot odds ?
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upplsuckimcool16
so confused how is 3/1 25% so you add right it's 1/3+1 OK so what if the person bets the pot..... then it's 1 / 2+1 which is 33%.

So we want the pot odds to be lower then? OK nevermindI think I just typed my way into understanding. If the pot odds are lower, then the outs % doesn't have to be as high as it would if the pot odds are 3 to 1. ur outs have to beat 25% or 33%

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Vasilis Aggelopoulos
A workbook with all this stuff might be useful.
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bluwave79
Hi, can you tell me where the formula 1:2.6=38% come from? It's not clear to me if 2.6 it's just the sum 1+1.6. Thanks
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CharlieRocRevolution
Awesome vid!
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Brian James
On the turn your supposed to multiply by 4.
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ThnkU4NotSmokin
I understand everything you're talking about but when you say 2.7:1 turns into %27 equity, how did you get that number?
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ThnkU4NotSmokin
Very helpful video. Thank you
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Sergey Denisov
i stuck with overbet spots. Let's say opponent bets 200% pot (two pots) .Like in example the pot is 80, so he bets 160 to 80 .According to the formula it's 160 / (160 + 240) = 0,4 or you have to be right 40% to break even . Is that correct ? i mean at the same time when we're getting 2 to 1 ( if opp bets pot on the river ) we have to be right 33% so isn't it 33% * 2 than ,witch means we have to be right 66% of a time when we're calling 2 pots size bet on the river ?
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LoneStarGal100
So confusing.
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Slashoom
Just want to say that I just got back from vegas and was up $500 and placed third in a tourney after re-watching some of these videos as a refresher course. Thanks again.
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Deventer
Thanks Poker Bank "score"!!
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elena Esp
I got lost of the equity point! i am confused when you sya we need 25% to break-even. I am newbie on poker so Iam still learning the jargon!!!
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Warren Viegas
One last thing, maybe I'm making things too complicated, but there must be a way to link the concept of pot odds,what do you think you're opponent has, and bet sizing. Or are you just better off guesstimating
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Warren Viegas
Although it's not needed I think a video dealing with odds could be helpful as most people are more used to percentages. After practicing this concept recently,I see why most people use odds as it's easier to calculate in real time.

The math is much easier when you deal with one form of numbers, The challenges is that it's easier to calculate pot odds in terms of Odds, but it's easier to calculate card equity in terms of percentage, based on the four two rule.

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bobbyb900
@ The Poker Bank,  In the second example, don't we need to estimate how often we will get paid when we hit our hand on the river, and how much you can get paid to determine your true equity?  Maybe this was intended to be just a basic intro to the topic, which is good, your videos are great.
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Mike Newman
how do you get an estimated equity? is it always your outs x2
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Warren Viegas
This is a very good video, but I feel that you should do you should make a video on estimation,
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Georges Sarkis
if i have flush draw on the flop.
the pot is 600$ and the bet is 300$ so i have to call 300$ to win 900$.
so the pot odd is 3:1.
i have 9 outs.
in this case 9*2 = 18% ==> 4.5:1
so i should fold my hand cz odds>pot odds.
if its all in on the flop it will be like this 9*4 = 36% ==> 1.8:1
so i should call cz here the odds <pot odds.
is this right ??

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La vida de afrika Es Afrika
Hi. Nice video. Tx. Now, minute 1:57 that example it's -ev. If we put the oponent range on TT+, AKs, AKo do you have a 31 % equity not 43%
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I_Created_U
2 things:
1) At 02:10, the calculation reads 33/[33+53.50] but it doesn't explain where the 1.6:1 comes from since the calculation gives you directly the percentage 0.38 =38%. Shouldn't it rather read 53.5/33=1.6 = 1.6:1 or 53.5:33=1.6:1? Am i missing something?
2) Why bother with ratios when the relevant number is the percentage? Why even care about this 1.6:1 when all we actually need is the 38% that we want to compare with our equity? Since it is so easy to convert outs into percentages (5 outs=~10%), why loose time with ratios when we can convert pot odds into percentages directly and easily compare them to our own equity?

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FameUSMixtapes FameUSMixtapes
Great video
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Matt Holmquist
for the example with AK pre flow how did you decide to do1/2.6  to get the equity %
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MishMash
The one thing that doesn't make sense to me is the concept that, if the current pot is $40, and we have to call another $20, I know in terms of poker, the money in the pot is no longer ours, however in terms of profitability, we are already down $20 so far in this hand, therefore, even if we call another $20, technically we are only going to win half of that pot i.e $30. (assuming heads up, i.e what you put into the pot isn't profit)

So looking at raw win-rate, we are betting $20 with a 40% chance of winning $30 (net), which is not mathematically worth it.

The only reason I mention this is because the way everyone seems to teach pot odds doesn't really consider the loss, just the win, which makes me believe that you would need 2x the actual reward as stated to make the call worth it?

Or does this system generally just ignore the money you have already put in, as you have technically already lost that?

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Jwalk2urheart
how does one calculate their hand strength preflop? like your Ace King without a calculator at a live table?
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AkrazyMofo-
Still don't get it 😂
But my brain kind of calculates this sort of thing before i even knew what it was called, same with positions in poker i still dunno what positions are but i never played bad cards in early, to me its simple maths but when someone turns nerd mode on u lost me :) when im playing say early pos and i have good cards like KQ id still make tight fold cos id either have to raise with it to only get re-raised later & then fold.. Its probably better that i learned from experiance playing free rolls than watching these videos, but i love it if someone could explain it better for people that didn't have all As in school :) infact all my grades was terrible accept for maths n p.e !!


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Fernando Mir
@MrStevie57
The probability of a flush draw hits flush in the turn card is 9/45 = 20%, so the odds of NOT doing a flush are 80/20 or 4:1. So for 100 flush draws expect to hit 20 on the turn.

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Tsar
MAN !!! You are the best !!
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C Zinck
Do people really divide 53.5 by 33 in their heads and do all of these calculations in the 30 seconds between making decisions? I'm an Engineer and that's ludicrous to think that the average poker pro does this..
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martin27
i don't know this word, equity. is it the same as winning probability?
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